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taking on the hauerwaus mafia

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Nashcohorttony jones has put out a cut chapter from his book the new christians. he is taking on the "hauerwas mafia" which was a topic of our conversation at the cohort last time tony was in town. i like hauerwas, but we all agreed that there are some contradictions with him saying anti system yet being cradled by one.. mostly through trouble with pacifism, especially for matt who ministers to a large, very active, military community. the title of the chapter is "chaplain to the culture."

i like tony for his very honest unabashed style. i know where he stands. i’ve seen him attacked and be gracious and be very annoyed, guess that depends on you. most of all, he’s been very kind and gracious to me. the picture he’s saying "blog this gavin" and i think he was trying to do a "pound it." he didn’t do it very well.

scot mcknight : teaching the bible to emerging generations

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these are my notes. a lot was said and very fast. make a comment if you have a question. maybe we can get scot to jump into the conversaion. pictures from this pilgrim experience.

Scot McKnight
Teaching the Emerging Generation to Read the Bible
Shift Conference 2008

aspects of postmodernism emerging generation reading the bible

  • science is not the only story
  • science is dethroned, subjective reality is enthroned
  • they embrace their local story
  • epistemic humility
  • acceptance of myth, as an acceptable form of telling the truth.

this is small, but it has long term implications.

is it okay that adam is eve is not true but tells a narrative story

cultural products

  • come through pluralism, tv, increasing number of experiences with foreign countries
  • teaching of youth to read Jesus through the hebrew world
  • students are not bothered by a cultural expression
  • they like the ambiguity of different stories because it is part of their world

"I don’t have answers to these questions. I’m a college professor."

the emerging generation is experiencing "ironic faith"

the emerging story is the development of "ironic faith" .. people believe "but" .. etc. so there is a certain amount of irony in their faith that becomes intolerable therefore they leave. the emerging group has crossed a certain threshold. they will either become part of a new thing or they will not be christians at all

first element that feeds this

  • a doctrine of scripture that they can no longer accept. in-errancy or infallibility they can’t accept. it worked for modernity, but not for now. "is the bible true?" yes.. but they just wouldn’t use that word
  • science. an increasing number of emerging types believes that science tells a lot of truth. they might say that evolution happen, so then how do i read the bible if this is the way that God allowed the world to be created. they don’t say that they should change their view of science.
  • the doctrine of hell. we will face it in ways we have not faced it before in the next 15 – 20 years. you don’t have to have the answers, but you need to let the question be asked
  • the God of the bible. people believe in a open theism. students read the bible that we encourage them too. and parts that we do not know much about.
  • homosexuality.. they know what the bible says, and it is pretty clear. but they have close friends, brothers & sisters who are gay and lesbian and they seem like good Christians. there is a realization that there are homosexual Christians and there is no place for them in the church. it is not about morality or sexuality, it is about group identity

they are finding Jesus for the first time who grew up in a paul-ine world. they are choosing, which of these gospels am i going to follow. and they are not all the same
recognition that all theologies are language bound

this is scary stuff and destabilizes traditional evangelicalism. must be willing to listen to the questions.

short cut approaches

  • some people read the bible like a Rorschach inkblot. they open up the bible and they see what they want to see. breaking of the bible into verses has helped this.
  • morsels of laws. some people look at the bible as statements of things we are supposed to do.
  • people read the bible as a hallmark calendar of blessings. "i have never seen a hallmark card filled with wrath passages." the bible is laced together with blessings and hard things. there are hard parts and need to get beyond reading the bible to just find blessings
  • puzzlers. a lot of us do this instinctively. these people almost envision the bible as verses and cut them up and scatter them all out. if you know how to piece them together then you will know what God had in mind. if you can put them together you will know how to read the bible. when we come to scripture to read we already know how to read it, because we already have our theology figured out. out systematic theology, reading the bible as a puzzle, can be a dangerous way to read the bible. God didn’t give us systematic theology.. more people tend to believe the system than the story itself.
  • maestro approach. i think a lot of us read the bible through a maestro’s eyes. reformers picked Paul. mainline liberals picked Jesus, as well the Anabaptists.

"i think we should teach people to read the bible that is.. and not teach them something.."

a model of how to read the bible

we need to read the bible as a story. not as myth or fiction. the way God revealed the bible. every author is a wiki story of the story. if you believe scripture to be the inspired word of God you have to be willing to take in

the creator creates Eikon’s. we are made with four relations God, Self, Others, World. we cracked the Eikon’s in four relations, with God, Self, Others, World. covenanted Eikon’s the whole bible is about covenanted Eikon’s, the covenanted people are the very foundation of the story. reformers grown in a Pauline context want to go from Genesis 12 to Romans 3. new covenant with Christ is the climactic dimension. the consummation.

we should read book by book or author by author. look for these five themes. map how these five themes come up in the wiki stories. we have to let the wiki stories do the work for us.

shift conference : day one

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the experience up to this point.. wonderful, challenging.. and i am an a-hole. (more on the a-hole later)

jason and i got to willow got checked in and had no idea what to do with ourselves, so we stood by the doors to get in as early as possible and check into some front row type seats. not bad there. jason spotted mark yaconelli for me, so i chased him down. said our hellos exchanged some conversation where i told him, "i suck." which i’ve been saying for awhile now. no surprise to me. we tried to find brian mclaren, then charlie hall kicked in. said our byes.

i love charlie hall‘s music, though i’ve never seen him live before. my favorite song i don’t expect to hear played. it’s rather slow moving and has a violin accompaniment. possibly next time. haha!

brian kicked into high gear early, so i bet many people were left in the dust. the whole idea of empire and that we are the current empire that Christ spoke against or had an active resistance against is a tough pill to take. check out my parallel. so if people were not able to gather that quickly then they might have had troubles. a lot of the message is what is highlighted in "everything must change." tim, took some good notes. me, i txt’ed my twitter with notes. so check that out. there is some banter over at the out of ur blog on this sharing. they have posted this highlight of brian’s talk as well.

mark yaconelli was up next. mark was wonderful. many of the words i needed to hear. i made sure to thank him afterwards. he told me that at least he knew he was talking one person. i believe he connected with just about everyone. tim, again, has really great notes.

i took some prayer time after the session. i let morning prayer slide, as i so often do. so taking some moments while everyone was standing in lunch lines. not a bad decision. prayer time was really good for me, though, as with many times it is a struggle to rest. it takes about 4 or 5 days to get to that rest spot for me. however, it was nice to be. i didn’t want to leave so i read this letter that was written to me two weeks ago. i have been carrying it since i received it. it is from an older gentleman in our congregation. in it he shared his snapshots into his story; foster care, childhood, the army, a suicide attempt, redemption & a commitment to sharing his gift for drawing and art with others. this is when i felt like an a-hole. i’ve been holding this for days now and wouldn’t give myself the time to be inspired and connected. i highlighted this from a newspaper article about his work drawing pictures for newborns in the hospitals.

"The simplicity of strokes, that’s the secret to make something look real with the least amount of work. That’s the secret to creativity."

i like that.

after that lunch break. willow has a large cafeteria typed area. i had a very ‘hit the spot’ braut.

back into session with shane claiborne who shared many stories of loving thy neighbor. lifting up & caring for those in need. i think he wrote this before, but i heard it again and it struck me.

Jesus did not talk to a prostitute. because, Jesus did not see a prostitute. only a child.

that i liked as well.

ps: i’ve got some killer pictures to share. but this hotel wi-fi won’t let me upload to flickr. so look for those at some point.