i am not the best at these legislative things. but this sucks. when i have mentioned to people the concept behind mountain top removal they cringe.. i suppose it doesn’t have the publicity to get more attention. what is mountain top removal? educate yourself
Art says
Yep, that sucks!
Art says
Yep, that sucks!
Earl says
With respect, for the foreseeable future MTR is a fact of life. A transition to clean technology will come but in the mean time we will not be able to abandon coal simply because it destroys mountains. Absent a greater use of nuclear energy, there is no reasonable alternative to coal. To render our most available and commonly used form of energy uneconomical would for both producer and consumer result in an economic catastrophe that would make the nightmare of the Great Depression look like just a long month with a short paycheck.
Earl says
With respect, for the foreseeable future MTR is a fact of life. A transition to clean technology will come but in the mean time we will not be able to abandon coal simply because it destroys mountains. Absent a greater use of nuclear energy, there is no reasonable alternative to coal. To render our most available and commonly used form of energy uneconomical would for both producer and consumer result in an economic catastrophe that would make the nightmare of the Great Depression look like just a long month with a short paycheck.
gavin says
nice attitude earl.
i am sorry, i do not believe that this has to be some “fact of life.” the issue is overconsumption. not that we are using coal. yes it has economic impacts, but people adjust, the pitch a fit and then adjust. that is how change happens. it is what is happening to our gasoline situations. prices force the movement to smaller cars or hybrids.
this might force a hand of more sustainable energy. higher prices for coal/energy, which, i am not opposed too, but that is me. i am choosing these things and planning and trying to remodel our home to get as much off the grid as possible. it costs a lot and takes a lot of initiative.
people as a general are maybe lazy, but they care and if they knew, they would hopefully do a few things that add up to a lot when pulled off by the masses.
gavin says
nice attitude earl.
i am sorry, i do not believe that this has to be some “fact of life.” the issue is overconsumption. not that we are using coal. yes it has economic impacts, but people adjust, the pitch a fit and then adjust. that is how change happens. it is what is happening to our gasoline situations. prices force the movement to smaller cars or hybrids.
this might force a hand of more sustainable energy. higher prices for coal/energy, which, i am not opposed too, but that is me. i am choosing these things and planning and trying to remodel our home to get as much off the grid as possible. it costs a lot and takes a lot of initiative.
people as a general are maybe lazy, but they care and if they knew, they would hopefully do a few things that add up to a lot when pulled off by the masses.
Drew says
I’ve started thinking a lot about wind, solar, and water energy in less obtrusive ways. Solar panels are pretty easy to get out of the way – just put them on the roof. But instead of limiting wind energy to massive wind farms, why don’t more houses and apartment complexes have small windmills somewhere on the property? And instead of damming rivers, whatever happened to the water-wheel?
I know these ideas don’t completely get rid of reliance on coal, but they certainly do help.
Drew says
I’ve started thinking a lot about wind, solar, and water energy in less obtrusive ways. Solar panels are pretty easy to get out of the way – just put them on the roof. But instead of limiting wind energy to massive wind farms, why don’t more houses and apartment complexes have small windmills somewhere on the property? And instead of damming rivers, whatever happened to the water-wheel?
I know these ideas don’t completely get rid of reliance on coal, but they certainly do help.
Wayne says
With all due respect, Earl, it is possible to harvest coal without raping the very earth that holds it. It’s just cheaper at the front end to bring in “the world’s largest shovel” and strip all the land and rip off the mountain tops to do it. But at what price? More polluted water sources? More contaminated soil that will never be recover to the fertility that it may have had prior to coal companies rape of the land? And what happens to the economy of the area that is devestated once “Mr. Peabody’ done hauled it away” ?
Wayne
Wayne says
With all due respect, Earl, it is possible to harvest coal without raping the very earth that holds it. It’s just cheaper at the front end to bring in “the world’s largest shovel” and strip all the land and rip off the mountain tops to do it. But at what price? More polluted water sources? More contaminated soil that will never be recover to the fertility that it may have had prior to coal companies rape of the land? And what happens to the economy of the area that is devestated once “Mr. Peabody’ done hauled it away” ?
Wayne